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StMike
Posted 2017-02-27 9:41 PM (#91872)
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I have been unsuccessful locating instructions for sewing an expandable waist in mens pants.   I am referring to the waist expansions at the side seams and waist band above the pockets.  These usually have a sliding panel in the waistband and elastic inside to allow for the expansion in the waist circumference.  Does anyone know of a good set of instructions or a pattern for this?

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Lisa - Tech Support
Posted 2017-02-27 9:50 PM (#91873 - in reply to #91872)
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StMike - 2017-02-27 8:41 PM

I have been unsuccessful locating instructions for sewing an expandable waist in mens pants.   I am referring to the waist expansions at the side seams and waist band above the pockets.  These usually have a sliding panel in the waistband and elastic inside to allow for the expansion in the waist circumference.  Does anyone know of a good set of instructions or a pattern for this?


I used to have a paper pattern with those instructions. Not sure I still do but will look for it.
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StMike
Posted 2017-02-28 5:32 PM (#91874 - in reply to #91872)
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Thanks, Lisa. I just thought of something else today while at work. I will go to Good Will and other charity thrift stores to see if I can find a pair of expandable waist pants and then take them apart to try and figure out just exactly how they do that? I don't think it is very difficult.

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scottiesews
Posted 2017-03-01 2:46 PM (#91878 - in reply to #91872)
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I don't have it to hand but I'm fairly sure there are instructions in David Coffin's book on pants
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StMike
Posted 2017-03-01 10:53 PM (#91881 - in reply to #91878)
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Thank you for the suggestion.  I have that book, but the method Mr. Coffin uses leaves a large elastic insert showing to the public side of the garment albeit in the waistband area where a belt would worn.  So, I am still looking for a more refined method where the elastic is hidden from public view.

 

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Lisa - Tech Support
Posted 2017-03-01 11:36 PM (#91882 - in reply to #91881)
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I found these links. They are not quite what you are looking for but might give you the general idea of how to sew it.

http://nap-timecreations.com/2015/04/adjustable-waistband-tutorial-with-button-elastic.html

http://makeitorfixit.com/how-to-make-an-adjustable-waistband-in-jeans

https://oliverands.com/community/blog/2015/06/adding-an-adjustable-elastic-waist-to-pantsskirts.html

I also found this patent which is kind of fun.

https://www.google.com/patents/US6385777

This YouTube video shows how it works but not how to construct but it might help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbaXK7VdE3s

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StMike
Posted 2017-03-02 9:03 AM (#91883 - in reply to #91882)
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Thanks, Lisa.  Those are all very helpful. I had seen some of them already. But that patent! I haven't searched patent databases since I was a consultant.  Good find!  I also wondered if the WIKI article on sewing a side pocket skirt opening might not be adapted to the installation of the expandable elastic closure?  It's a good WIKI article, and I am curious about adapting it.  Anyone out there have suggestions?
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margie2
Posted 2017-03-02 3:00 PM (#91884 - in reply to #91883)
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St. Mike, I think your idea of going to the thrift store is a good one. I recently made a couple jackets by copying the designs from some thrift store jackets. One was a Koos that would only fit a supermodel. It is really helpful to have a garment to study and you don't always have to take it apart.

I looked in a couple books I have on sewing men's garments. I do have one that illustrates adding elastic to the waist of men's knit pants, but I am pretty sure this isn't what you want. The book dates to the 70's, just as knits were taking off. I think I know what you are looking for because my DH had some trousers with that type waistband. He no longer has them, or I would take pictures for you.

Have you tried the library?

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EasilyAmewsed
Posted 2017-03-02 3:14 PM (#91885 - in reply to #91872)
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I actually have a pack of those metal adjustable hook & eye closures by Dritz.. Picked it up at an estate sale, but they still make them.
 If button elastic or metal isn't your thing, maybe a soft, but firm, unseen side adjustment alternative could involve bra back replacements or extenders. They are easy to find at a JoAnn's, made to take stress and can come in wide or narrow widths.
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Cate - Gold Coast
Posted 2017-03-29 6:56 AM (#91943 - in reply to #91872)
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You could also try looking at boys school shorts/trousers. My son's shorts have a waistband with a wide piece of elastic to allow for expansion. At the absolute fullest expansion, you would see the elastic but mostly it is hidden within the waistband/side pocket. When not on the body, you need to look closely to see the join.
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StMike
Posted 2017-03-29 9:16 AM (#91944 - in reply to #91872)
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Thanks all, for the suggestions. I went to Goodwill and found a pair of men's khakis with the expandable waist feature. It uses a single piece of elastic and a fabric "slider" that attaches to the pant front and slides back and forth through a slot in the side seam. The pocket opening gets wider as the waist "expands". The elastic is inside the slider and the waistband so as to be hidden from public view. In the back, it attaches inside the waistband above where the dart is. It is pretty ingenius and I don't think it will be difficult to copy. With all the layers, the elastic, and the "slider", there is a lot of bulk in the side seam area of the pant, which is a drawback. But, hey, you can't have it all. Sorry I let the topic drop. I just got busy.

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SueC56
Posted 2017-04-09 12:04 PM (#91978 - in reply to #91944)
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Stan, keep us posted on what you figure out. I think I will do the same and go shopping at Goodwill, for that and other tailoring/design ideas.

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