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JoAnndjob
Posted 2013-07-11 11:06 PM (#85870)
Subject: cowl neckline with kimono sleeve



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Can anyone tell me how to draft a cowl neckline with a kimono sleeve. I've done it using shoulder princess, but this isn't working well with my slinky and I'd like to make it without the princess seams. Mainly, what do you use for the pivot point for forming the cowl?
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pldesigns
Posted 2013-07-13 7:16 AM (#85884 - in reply to #85870)
Subject: RE: cowl neckline with kimono sleeve



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I think the easiest way is to use the cf hem and pivot from there.  Or you could use a deep , wide V neck and insert a cowl.
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Trish
Posted 2013-07-14 4:14 PM (#85896 - in reply to #85870)
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JoAnn, it is not really a kimono, but I did use PMK to make a cowl-necked top with cut-on sleeves. 
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julie w
Posted 2013-07-14 5:48 PM (#85898 - in reply to #85870)
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Very pretty top Trish, thank you for sharing.
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cfonfold
Posted 2013-07-14 6:45 PM (#85899 - in reply to #85870)
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The pivot point that will give you the most fullness through the bust is surely the hip. But I think you could pivot from both the waist and the bust level as well for a more shapely side seam. Do you have a dolman that you like? You might consider taking the bust ease level down a bit before you take it inot PE. How about superimposing the two, (cowl and dolman)? Coopie

Woops! Where is my brain today! Superimposing really won't work. You need to bend the whole  upper section away from the center to get the cowl. Duh. Maybe I'd better open up PE for a bit.

C

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JoAnndjob
Posted 2013-07-14 7:20 PM (#85900 - in reply to #85899)
Subject: Re: cowl neckline with kimono sleeve



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Thanks Coopie. I drafted one using the bust level that looks like it might work, but got distracted after trying on an old criss-cross top I made several months ago. I had forgotten it was make with slinky like my new fabric planned for the cowl. I decided the reason I didn't like it was the sleeve length, but did like it with shorter sleeves. I still want to make a kimono top with cowl neckline, but will wait until I find some other fabric.
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JoAnndjob
Posted 2013-07-14 7:22 PM (#85901 - in reply to #85896)
Subject: Re: cowl neckline with kimono sleeve



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Trish, I think I tried that sleeve on a muslin when PMK first came out, but wasn't happy with it. It looks like yours has a split sleeve that would hand differently. I might have to try it.
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dotmoll
Posted 2013-07-20 8:46 PM (#85927 - in reply to #85870)
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I did this with a shoulder princess seam, and liked the result. If your hips are smaller than your bust, pivoting from the hipline seems to work well. If you are pear-shaped, it might actually be useful to to have an empire seam in the front and pivot from the bottom of the bodice piece. That way you can cut either the bodice or the skirt on the bias (though not in slinky!), and also to give a little more structure to the top.

I really liked the shoulder princess cowl top that I made. Pity it has tea stains down the front now...
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JoAnndjob
Posted 2013-07-20 11:18 PM (#85928 - in reply to #85927)
Subject: Re: cowl neckline with kimono sleeve



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I made a cowl with the shoulder princess seams using PM4 several years ago that I really like. I didn't think the princess seams would like good with my slinky print fabric this time so wanted an alternative. I ended up making a criss-cross top with the slinky, but still want to make a kimono cowl without the princess seams at some point.

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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2013-07-21 8:39 AM (#85930 - in reply to #85870)
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I played a bit with this. Didn't test, but think this would be a start.

 Started with Kimono. Drew a line and did a Rotate by units. My guess was 4 inches. The more rotation the more drape. When drawing the new neckline I went back 1 inch from the jewel neck edge.





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JoAnndjob
Posted 2013-07-21 11:35 AM (#85931 - in reply to #85930)
Subject: Re: cowl neckline with kimono sleeve



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Karen, this is what I did for my second test mentioned in the above message 7-14. I haven't sewn it yet, but will if I ever find appropriate fabric. I saw this style on the sales person at a local fabric store. She said she made it, but I forgot the ask for the pattern # and brand.
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NancyM
Posted 2013-08-26 10:12 PM (#86282 - in reply to #85870)
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Is the StyleArc "Creative Cate" top a kimono-sleeve cowl? Has anybody made it? What is the fastener that's shown in the drawing? I hate to order the pattern all the way from Australia just to get an answer to that question, even though I do plan to order two other patterns from this source.

Thanks for any info.

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EasilyAmewsed
Posted 2013-08-27 12:42 AM (#86285 - in reply to #86282)
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That's just a clip on earring, I've seen folks use two of them to shape the cowl as well. : ) This gal used a clip hoop type earring

http://clothingengineer.com/2013/07/style-arc-creative-cate/

Shel

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NancyM
Posted 2013-08-27 11:40 AM (#86288 - in reply to #86285)
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Thanks for the info. and the very helpful link!

Nancy
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KinDE
Posted 2013-08-27 4:29 PM (#86289 - in reply to #86288)
Subject: RE: cowl neckline with kimono sleeve



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That link to the bright pink cowl top from Style Arc makes me want to ask why are there diagonal lines across the front below the bust? They appear to be well below the cowl and originate from the model's right side. Do you think it is the fabric that is stretched a bit too much for the figure (nice as it is) or the way she is standing or the design? For 1 yard of  60" of fabric I think I need to try this in a piece of wild print I picked up in a fabric exchange using Karen C's rotation instruction.
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