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Karen Maslowski
Posted 2013-03-14 11:40 AM (#84920 - in reply to #84917)
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Ha, ha. Well put, Brenda.
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barbara
Posted 2013-03-14 11:42 AM (#84921 - in reply to #84912)
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karen, we don't have steinmart anymore. I just got a flyer for a sale. this is about the only sale that warcoal is included.
thanks for your information though.
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Susan Palmer
Posted 2013-03-14 11:51 AM (#84922 - in reply to #84918)
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julie w - 2013-03-15 7:53 AM  I have chickened out of using Curves, for the time being due to not knowing how to tweak the settings, and have bought a pattern so I can have instructions for my first attempts.

Sounds like a good plan.  Think I'll try that myself.  If successful, then I could transfer info to curves and have more variety of styles to choose from...at least that sounds resonable to me!

Susan

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Mariane
Posted 2013-03-14 4:03 PM (#84925 - in reply to #84922)
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I have been silently watching this thread. I also need to learn to make bras since I can't find any RTW that fit properly. Please let us know what commercial patterns you're trying and the results.

Mariane
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julie w
Posted 2013-03-14 5:58 PM (#84926 - in reply to #84881)
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This website http://www.herroom.com/european-lingerie-size-conversions,929,30.ht... has a link on the left hand side "classify breasts" could be helpful in deciding the type of pattern to use. Personally I have Pin Up Girls Shelley bra on order available from either Bra Makers Supply or Elingeria.
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maryann
Posted 2013-03-17 4:49 PM (#84937 - in reply to #84926)
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Thanks for the reference to this site.  From it I think I have discovered that I'm a splayed breast type and would do best with a demi style bra.  I've been giving some thought to making my own bras as well.  I've always been averse to underwires and don't really understand how they are perceived to provide better support than a regular (to me) wireless bra.  Actually, finding a wireless bra pattern is sometimes harder to do than the reverse.  Can someone explain to me why they seem so much more supportive?  Does size make a difference?  I'm an A/B cup, myself.  Does it make more of a difference to those with size C or larger breasts?  Curious to know.  I have Curves V5 and will probably use it for my experimentation.  Again, thanks for this site reference for bras.  It looks like it might prove to have quite valuable info for the journey.

 

Maryann

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Karen Maslowski
Posted 2013-03-18 5:18 PM (#84938 - in reply to #84937)
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I've worn an underwire bra most of my adult life, and I'm over 60 now.

The wires, I feel, keep the cup of the bra where it is meant to be, so yes, it does support better. The bras seem to keep their shape better, too.

I just think they're more comfortable, all around. Your mileage may vary, of course.
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barbara
Posted 2013-03-19 11:50 AM (#84939 - in reply to #84938)
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I never had an underwire when I was younger, I did think they were uncomfortable. Now I am close to 60 and I have had underwires for quite some time, don't remember when I started to buy them. It might be an old age thing or maybe there are just more of them on the market. Maybe when you are younger and thinnest and just in better shape you don't need the underwire so much.
I remember the bra lady saying we all need an underwire, but maybe that was because the class was nobody under the age of 40 and often people with specific issues.

It seems crazy that we all wear bras, but we know very little about how they work and how they should fit.
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Karen Maslowski
Posted 2013-03-19 2:25 PM (#84940 - in reply to #84939)
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Barbara, I think I started wearing them in the 70's, when I was in my 20's. And then when I started jogging, it was even more important to have good support.

And I was way thinner, and in better shape, then than I am now. Sadly.
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TessainGabriola
Posted 2013-03-21 12:17 AM (#84941 - in reply to #84881)
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I like the herroom site http://www.herroom.com/european-lingerie-size-conversions,929,30.ht... It makes you look carefully at your breasts. I am a 38 DD in RTW. When I took Beverly ____ 's course at Bramakers.com (or .ca) She pointed out that my breasts are far apart in front. Since then I have been very annoyed with my RTW bras of different companies because I can see where they all don't fit! So the main adjustment I need to make is to widen the center front bridge. Notice that herroom asks about that early on, but never follows it up. Every year I get determined to do one and never get there. Honestly, it's not that complicated. And it's such a high when you get one done. It will fit better than your current RTW already!

I found a course the best way to go for the first time. It does take a full day - I think mine was a full weekend. Because you need the teacher to look at the fit from all sides. And her experience would see the best way to achieve changes.

Tessa

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patmiller3
Posted 2013-03-29 6:35 PM (#84985 - in reply to #84881)
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I haven't been here for awhile due to internet problems.
Julie,
Have you made your bra yet? Were you able to get a good fit?

Pat
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julie w
Posted 2013-03-29 8:19 PM (#84987 - in reply to #84985)
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Hi Pat, I have made my muslins out of quilting cottons and am waiting for supplies to arrive. Lesson to self: don't second guess the measurement chart . I usually wear a 34 DD but the measurement chart put me between a 34C and 34D. I had purchased three different underwires to see which one fit better and chose the largest so decided to make a 3DD equivalent - it was way too big. So I then cut the 34D that fit well with the exception that I needed to make the bridge a bit wider and add to the top at the sides (used the above mentioned website to work this out). I retested and took the equivalent out of the side power bar included in the Shelley pattern and guess what, I think I like the wire recommended wonder if I could use the c cup with more height but for now I will go with this. I have duoplex on hand but the powermesh I had wasn't firm enough so waiting for more to arrive.

I'm looking forward to finishing a proper bra and testing it for a day. On pattern review it was mentioned that the pattern gave some people a pointy fit but I think that would be adjustable if the case. I'll let you know how it goes.
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patmiller3
Posted 2013-03-29 8:51 PM (#84988 - in reply to #84881)
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Earlier I mentioned that in an Anne St. Claire class, I made a bra that fit really well. But the cup was made from tricot and therefore, wasn't supportive enough.
Do you think a cup made from cotton cut on the bias would work well for a bra?

Pat
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julie w
Posted 2013-03-29 10:04 PM (#84989 - in reply to #84988)
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I'm really no expert and am just starting out myself, but bras traditionaly would have been made from cotton but was fit as important? I don't know. The band in my muslins felt pretty firm, maybe try it and either line the lower cup with non stretch lining or perhaps try using two layers on opposite grains? If not using underwires still put the casing in as this still gives some support, so I've read on the internet.
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Karen Maslowski
Posted 2013-03-30 12:39 PM (#84990 - in reply to #84988)
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Pat, the Wacoal bras I like are all made of firm lace with a sheer layer of nylon tricot beneath. They are super supportive.

I'm following this discussion, hoping to make my own bras, too. Thanks, everyone, for sharing so much great info.
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Grandma C
Posted 2013-03-30 5:25 PM (#84991 - in reply to #84990)
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I think Rowena said that she preferred her bras to be made of muslin. I wish she was here to chime in.
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Karen Maslowski
Posted 2013-04-01 2:25 PM (#85002 - in reply to #84990)
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After I wrote that, above, I looked at one of my lace bras. It has a second, doubled layer of side support sewn into the outermost third of the cup, with the folded side towards the center of the cup. I'm sure that takes a bit of stress off the lace portion.
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Kissi
Posted 2014-08-08 12:02 PM (#88423 - in reply to #84904)
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Hello Sewsally,

Please, can you tell me more about on how to use the settings in Curves to do my own bra? I have problems with the cup-patterns. The didn't fit together in the Cup-seam. The sewline in the lower cup is way shorter than in the upper cup. Karen tells me to chance the bustcurve measurement, but I can't get the right measurement. Do you have any tipps for me?

Kissi
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Kissi
Posted 2014-08-08 12:03 PM (#88424 - in reply to #84902)
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Please, can you tell me more about on how to use the settings in Curves to do my own bra? I have problems with the cup-patterns. The didn't fit together in the Cup-seam. The sewline in the lower cup is way shorter than in the upper cup. Karen tells me to chance the bustcurve measurement, but I can't get the right measurement.
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Beverly A.
Posted 2014-08-08 4:38 PM (#88428 - in reply to #84881)
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A little aside on underwires. I cannot use them because my breast muscle extends farther under my arm than normal. Therefore the wire cuts into the muscle and is very painful.
Beverly A.
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sewsally
Posted 2014-08-09 11:05 AM (#88434 - in reply to #84881)
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Kissi -- its been years since I tried to make bras. Can't remember how to use curves. Anne St Clair maybe be able to help you. She has her own business.
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