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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-01 8:24 AM (#83490)
Subject: Sleeve styles



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In this thread we are going to look at sleeve styles.  My definition of sleeve style is the design of the sleeve and the length of the sleeve.

Our first models are wearing a simple setin sleeve three different length.  The models have a defined waist and a less defined waist.

What do you think?





(Set In Sleeve.jpg)



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rebells
Posted 2012-10-01 8:37 AM (#83491 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles


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I prefer the short sleeve on the defined waist and the 3/4 on the thicker waist. Strange because I can't stand to wear 3/4 length sleeves. They just don't feel right. For me its got to be above the elbow or down to the wrist.
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dancing threads
Posted 2012-10-01 9:51 AM (#83492 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles



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I am the opposite and prefer 3/4 length sleeves. I have a less defined waist and am 5'2" - any line that makes me look longer helps.
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margie2
Posted 2012-10-01 10:46 AM (#83494 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: RE: Sleeve styles


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I think color has a lot to do with perception. What if all the drawings were the same color?

I like 3/4 sleeves because they don't add to the across the body dimensions in the wrong place for me.. Short sleeves can add visual width to a large bust and long sleeves can add to hip width. But, sometimes, you have to be practical. I need long sleeves in winter.
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kirsten
Posted 2012-10-01 11:21 AM (#83495 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: RE: Sleeve styles



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I am going to enjoy this thread, sleeves were quite a learning curve for me. I have a pear shaped figure and having long sleeves ends almost at my widest part causing a horizontal line in a place that  would rather not emphasize. Depending on bicep circumference, short sleeves can work if one has slender arms.

 

 

 

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TracyaR
Posted 2012-10-01 12:34 PM (#83498 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles


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The long sleeve style appears the least flattering. You have a straight line cutting you apart.
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Beverly A.
Posted 2012-10-01 1:45 PM (#83499 - in reply to #83498)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles


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Short sleeves are not flattering to the larger busted woman if they stop right at the bustline. However, if they extend to just above the elbow, they are both comfortable as well as flattering especially if your upper arms are a bit flabby. I feel uncovered in the very short sleeves commonly found in RTW. 3/4 sleeves feel incomplete. So, it is either elbow length or full length for me.
Beverly A.
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Grandma C
Posted 2012-10-01 2:51 PM (#83500 - in reply to #83490)
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Hmm. my eyes tell me that the shorter sleeve would be better for my less defined waist.
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-02 7:07 AM (#83502 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles



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Today I did a Bell sleeve. The short version of this sleeve works well for someone with a full biceps that wants a short sleeve. It has a smooth fit at the cap but flares enough so not be tight. The first time I saw this sleeve on a full biceps I didn't realize it was a bell.



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julie w
Posted 2012-10-02 7:31 AM (#83503 - in reply to #83494)
Subject: RE: Sleeve styles


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margie2 - 2012-10-01 11:46 PM


I like 3/4 sleeves because they don't add to the across the body dimensions in the wrong place for me.. Short sleeves can add visual width to a large bust and long sleeves can add to hip width.


I agree with Margie, however I do wear short sleeves/sleeveless due to living in a hot climate.

Karen, I have to agree with the bell shape sleeve for a short sleeve and this is one of my go to styles.
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rebells
Posted 2012-10-02 8:42 AM (#83504 - in reply to #83490)
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Hmm. Full length bell sleeves made out of a stiff material would be a bad idea.
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Posted 2012-10-02 9:45 AM (#83505 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles



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If I wear short sleeves, this is the type of sleeve for me. I feel more like an adult with this sleeve style than with the closely fitted short sleeve or, e-gads, the puffed sleeve!
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JoAnndjob
Posted 2012-10-02 10:01 AM (#83506 - in reply to #83505)
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I use the short bell sleeve frequently even without large biceps. It's cool in summer, similar to flutter sleeve, but less full. PMB lowers the cap height automatically, but PMK needs to be done in settings. This is my go to short sleeve because I still can't get a good fitting set-in sleeve.
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TracyaR
Posted 2012-10-02 10:44 AM (#83507 - in reply to #83502)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles


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I had never even considered the bell sleeve. I live in Florida where it is hot, hot, hot so sleeveless or short sleeves are a must. Don't really like sleeveless because of my upper arms so now I will have to try the short bell sleeve. This is really eye opening. Thanks.
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Beverly A.
Posted 2012-10-02 8:24 PM (#83514 - in reply to #83507)
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I live on the Texas Gulf Coast and it is HOT here in the season. I never wear sleeveless garments. I consider them too warm. Of course, I also do not wear polyester anything. I consider a cotton. elbow or thereabouts sleeve most comfortable.
Beverly A.
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-05 7:20 AM (#83539 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Tops with Pants



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When you must have long sleeves - 4 different jacket/coat lengths.



(4 coat lengths.jpg)



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KinDE
Posted 2012-10-05 8:24 AM (#83540 - in reply to #83539)
Subject: Re: Tops with Pants



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Karen,

Can you please re-post the 4 coat jpg as a las file? I can not maneuver the jpg in PMB editor. I would like to move one model on top of another to check my impressions an possibly re-draw over the figures you presented to experiment myself.

I find the second figure appears most slim, but are the drawings all on the same basic model? I just held a ruler to the screen and it appears they are! Could have fooled me!

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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-05 8:26 AM (#83541 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles



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Here is the las file.

They are all the same. I copied the first one. I did have to redraw some lines as I made changes in the hip area.



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rebells
Posted 2012-10-05 8:32 AM (#83542 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles


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Once again I am surprised at what I see. Looking at the drawings the short jacket is the most pleasing. In real life I always think people in short jackets look like the jacket is too small. It also makes their behinds look bigger, even on thin people.

Karen - Would you please make a long over short in the same proportions as view 2? I' like to see if view 2's proportions are as pleasing when reversed. I've always been partial to long jackets. To me, the current long jacket looks dowdy.
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-05 9:01 AM (#83543 - in reply to #83490)
Subject: Re: Sleeve styles



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Don't understand what you want.
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rebells
Posted 2012-10-05 9:39 AM (#83544 - in reply to #83490)
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I would like to see the jacket of view 4 the same length as the pants of view 2.
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margie2
Posted 2012-10-05 10:12 AM (#83545 - in reply to #83539)
Subject: Re: Tops with Pants


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My impressions...#1 looks the best, #2 looks too small, #3 looks outdated , #4 should stand on its own since it is a long coat. I would make #4 a little shorter, for me, since I am short.
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Posted 2012-10-05 11:41 AM (#83546 - in reply to #83490)
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I like number 1.
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Grandma C
Posted 2012-10-05 12:31 PM (#83548 - in reply to #83490)
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I like #4 but probably would rarely wear it because our climate/humidity would not allow me to be comfortable.
It seems that the lines of the long coat makes the body look longer and leaner.
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Grandma C
Posted 2012-10-05 12:35 PM (#83549 - in reply to #83490)
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Could we have some views dealing with diagonal and/or asymetric linesKaren thank you for your efforts to educate and faciltate our efforts.
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