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julie w
Posted 2012-09-28 8:54 PM (#83467 - in reply to #83425)
Subject: Re: Tops with Pants


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I prefer the curved v neckline as it makes a softer line and just a slightly less expanse of fabric, and for that reason prefer either of the v necks to the jewel neck for the larger figure.
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-09-29 4:42 AM (#83468 - in reply to #83425)
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Our ladies are 5" tall. They have a less defined waist. (If you are just coming into this thread, click jump to page 1 to see the other drawings)

What do you think?



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rebells
Posted 2012-09-29 8:32 AM (#83469 - in reply to #83425)
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The vest makes a huge difference! She looks both taller and thinner.
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-09-29 8:56 AM (#83470 - in reply to #83425)
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Actually I was really surprised. I measured to make sure they were the same size.
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KinDE
Posted 2012-09-29 9:37 AM (#83471 - in reply to #83425)
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I fit the short heavier lady at 5 ft. I was very surprised by the vest as well.

But I really dislike the sleeve on this top. I do not think it balances the figure but only adds bulk and distracts from what curve there is to the figure at the waist.

I'm not very good at paint, but here is my redoing of the style with a standard short sleeve (for me it would be about 5" ), shorter top, no buttons on the blouse, and a lower scoop neck (could be v-neck but with my round face, I often prefer the scoop).





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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-09-29 10:00 AM (#83472 - in reply to #83425)
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You can also play with these designs in PE.

I have attached the short ladies. You can just draw using the PE options.

You can also import a style to file over the design. Save your design in SE. The use Merge in PE. You will find your style in Patterns - Garment - Images. To size it to the ladies increase the width 20%.

I am using the medium thickness line.





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kattie1jw
Posted 2012-09-29 4:02 PM (#83473 - in reply to #83425)
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That curved hem on the vest is suppose to be a no no for those of us with wide hips. But with the longer straight top underneath it looks good.

The straight hem of the longer top draws the eye so the curve hem on that vest is do able.

That's something to note in my extra measures folder for styles that can work.

Thanks everyone for all the input on this subject. I have been enjoying it.

Brenda in Olathe

Edited by kattie1jw 2012-09-29 4:03 PM
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-09-30 7:44 AM (#83474 - in reply to #83425)
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I'm putting up a pole to see where we can go with this thread.

It's called Play with Styles.
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KinDE
Posted 2012-09-30 12:45 PM (#83478 - in reply to #83473)
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But I diasagree about the longer shirt length.

If the shirt is a lighter color or with high contrast to the pants, the line at the hip length will appear wider (and would be wider) than a shirt stopping somewhere at the high hip level. For a short lady,  tops that end at a level that is both shorter and narrower (for most at a high hip) can also make the legs appear longer IMHO. I think this is also the reason for the favorable impression of the shorter rounded edge vest in the picture. Yes, the round lines of the front edges do lead the eye to the width, but it is at a narrower place on the body than the full hip.

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TracyaR
Posted 2012-09-30 4:50 PM (#83484 - in reply to #83474)
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Where do I find the poll?

Thanks
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rebells
Posted 2012-09-30 9:28 PM (#83487 - in reply to #83425)
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TracyaR
Posted 2012-10-01 12:28 PM (#83496 - in reply to #83487)
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Thanks!
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Beth in Wichita
Posted 2012-10-03 1:29 PM (#83524 - in reply to #83447)
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I think that's pretty typical. On others we see a line at the widest part. It says "Look how wide she is."  On ourselves we think "The more I hide the better."  I've been making my tops shorter, which is fine as long as I wear pants I made. RTW pants with a dropped waist, not so much. I drop the waist slightly, but not like RTW.

 

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pamelac858
Posted 2012-10-06 8:01 AM (#83553 - in reply to #83425)
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If you are hippy like me, a longer center front/back and shorter sides is a good choice. Notsa much with the longer sides and shorter front like you see a lot, that emphasizes the hips. That surprised me, as I thought any curve or shape in the area would break up the width, but it doesn't.
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pamelac858
Posted 2012-10-06 8:07 AM (#83554 - in reply to #83425)
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I' be interested in seeing different styles on different shapes. That seems to get most of us at one time or another. I hate it when I see a pattern or style in a catalog and it says it's good for different shapes, yet you can tell by looking that it would be totally wrong on certain shapes, despite what they say. It's also hard to get rid of preconceived notions about what we were told looks good or never to wear, even if you try it and like it.

Pam
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-06 9:02 AM (#83558 - in reply to #83425)
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Will experiment with changing body shapes.
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rebells
Posted 2012-10-09 9:32 AM (#83592 - in reply to #83468)
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Karen - I really like the look of this bolero and think I want to try it.  In PMB3 both the Bolero in Jackets and the Bolero Vest in Blouses end at the waist.  Your drawing ends below the waist and to my eye, looks better there.  I don't see any way to lengthen it in Style settings.  Is there a way or is this a PE and/or pencil and paper project?

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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-09 9:50 AM (#83593 - in reply to #83425)
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In V3 I would start with Vest and reshape the front in PE or with a pencil. You could also print the bolero front and use it as a guide for shape

As a general note, if you are a girl that needs darts, use a style that has them.  I think what gives the look is the open front, and a shaped hem.

 

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rebells
Posted 2012-10-09 3:32 PM (#83599 - in reply to #83425)
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Thank you. I do indeed need darts.
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JillRN1995
Posted 2012-10-09 8:24 PM (#83600 - in reply to #83425)
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Karen,

How do you get the different size silhouettes? Is this something that we can do ourselves in Style Editor in order to see how our style choices look for our body shape? If not, then is this something that Lisa could program for SE?

Jill
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-10 12:31 AM (#83601 - in reply to #83425)
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I increaded the width of the sketches in PE using scale. I redrew the side of the waist.
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JoAnndjob
Posted 2012-10-10 3:50 PM (#83608 - in reply to #83425)
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I've been following this thread with interest. The one thing that hasn't been mentioned is color or print of fabric in relation to the pants. Today I tried on a new pair of slacks (dark aubergine) with a pull-over sweater (bright yellow). The sweater length is what I usually wear and good proportion to the pants, but with the contrast, It highlights my hip width with the straight hem and looks bad. The tops I make usually have a slightly curved hem and most are either print or solids that blend with the pants. This can make a big difference.
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rebells
Posted 2012-10-10 5:22 PM (#83609 - in reply to #83608)
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Here are a few things to contemplate.  This took me a long time.  Either I have to get faster or there won't be many more.



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rebells
Posted 2012-10-10 5:36 PM (#83610 - in reply to #83609)
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A few more to look at




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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2012-10-10 6:52 PM (#83611 - in reply to #83425)
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Wow - great work. They do look different - what do you ladies think.
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