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Gypsy
Posted 2011-08-10 10:01 PM (#77283)
Subject: printing


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I am totally new to this. Printing uses lots of paper, in my case 54. Is that the norm for full size? How might I do it differently? Is it cost effective to send to Office Depot, Staples, Kinko, etc.? Thank you for your help.
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sewsally
Posted 2011-08-10 10:10 PM (#77284 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing



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Wow! what are you printing?

Did you know you can move the pieces around and rotate before you print?

I also use legal size when its most efficient.

Edited by sewsally 2011-08-10 10:11 PM
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SueC56
Posted 2011-08-10 11:21 PM (#77285 - in reply to #77284)
Subject: RE: printing


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Depends on what pattern you are printing, but SewSally has a good point.  

After you click Print Patterns, you get the Print dialog box.  Click CANCEL.
You will now see the pieces on a grid.  You can click on them and drag them around to better positions.
Use the ROTATE and FLIP icons on the top tool bar to change the orientation of pieces as needed.
After you are done, click UPDATE PREVIEW.
Then check to see if you need to move any of your pieces again before you print.
Click PRINT and you will get your print dialog box again.

I highly recommend using at least LEGAL size paper, if you can in your printer.  That many fewer corners to match up!

Good luck

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cfonfold
Posted 2011-08-11 9:35 AM (#77288 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing



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It took me a while to convince myself that cost is really relevant. Buy paper cheap when you can. The last I bought was at Walmart for 2.97 a ream. I picked up two knowing that I was going to be doing a lot of sloper work. Doesn't that come out to .0006 per sheet?

Position your pieces to conserve and also to be convienient. Use page selection always. Print nothing not necessary. I print my pants only to the knee if they are straight legged, skirts only to the hip if they are penciled, tuck facings if you use them into sides and cornors.

Time costs more than paper.I have been printing in a different fashion lately. Fronts, backs and sleeves positioned on their own sheets so that I can tape one section while the next is printing. I find that positiong is easier and more accurate if I print in small runs.

Patterns that I print in my enthusiams and don't get around to using, get turned over and printed on the other side. Put a mark on the side you are not using!

Coopie

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Beverly A.
Posted 2011-08-11 7:47 PM (#77296 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing


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Get a plotter
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kski1
Posted 2011-10-14 9:59 AM (#78372 - in reply to #77284)
Subject: RE: printing


HELP...i have printed out many patterns...however, suddenly I can't do the reoganizing on the paper before printing. I have both grouped and ungrouped and still it is not working..if i do it ungrouped then when i click on a pattern piece i will get only one of the lines of the pattern...i have clicked in the middle of the pattern piece, i have tried to highlight a pattern piece by drawing a retangle around it, i have grouped the pattern pieces and then tried to move a pattern piece but then all the pieces are highlighted and want to go together..so if i move it they all go if i try to rotate they all want to rotate.
I have only had this problem since i upgraded the other day
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2011-10-14 10:15 AM (#78375 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing



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Run the update again.  Your program will tell you if you need to update.  Even if you did, do it again if your program tells you to.

No need to click cancel to go to the print layout.

You need to group each piece separately if you are in Pattern Editor and print from there.

If you print from Style Editor, they are ready to move around.

If you select all and group, they are now one object.  That is why they move together.

In print there is a "update preview" on the top to take away columns of blank pages to the right of the pattern.

Always start your layout on the left side of the print screen.

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kski1
Posted 2011-10-14 10:55 AM (#78376 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing


ahhhh that was it...I don't remember ever grouping each individual pattern piece....but it worked, now when i take it to print I can move them individual pattern piece...thank you.


Edited by kski1 2011-10-14 10:57 AM
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kski1
Posted 2011-10-14 11:08 AM (#78377 - in reply to #78375)
Subject: RE: printing


That was the problem..for so long I have not used the editor and was printing my patterns off the style pages....Thank you again.
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fayefish
Posted 2011-10-15 2:12 AM (#78385 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing


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have you tried select page then choose which pages your would like to print. If printing a top or dress pattern I usually choose all the pages for the front and print thenpages for the back and print etc. They are then grouped together when they come off the printer making them easier to join together as you are doing them one section of garment at a time and easier to handleand cut out.
I don't know if you would be able to get this paper overseas but Kmart here have 70gsm paper for $4.00 a ream. It is thinner than the standard 80gsm mostly available and much easier to pin onto fabric and see through when joining.
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JillRN1995
Posted 2011-10-15 3:52 PM (#78395 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing



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I have really enjoyed my new Epson WorkForce 520. It was very inexpensive, and it allows me to print on paper up to 44" in length. I can program lengths of 22, 33, and 44. I use continuous feed computer paper. I have to remove the perforated edges first. I've learned that if I fold it so that the first page goes in rather than a folded page, then it feeds it through easily and I don't have to hand feed it with each print command. I still try to economize on the placement of the pattern pieces prior to printing. Sometimes I rotate the pieces before I print. It's so nice to not have to tape so many pages together.

I purchased a small light box at Hobby Lobby which helps me to line up the pages perfectly.

Jill
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sewsally
Posted 2011-10-15 10:48 PM (#78399 - in reply to #78377)
Subject: RE: printing



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kski1 - 2011-10-14 8:08 AM

That was the problem..for so long I have not used the editor and was printing my patterns off the style pages....Thank you again.


You should be able to move the pattern pieces around when you print from the style page. I do it all the time. You don't have to go into editor to group.
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Grandma C
Posted 2011-10-16 11:47 AM (#78405 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing


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I have a glass top coffee table and place a small light under it to help me tape my patterns together. It sure speeds up the proscess. I never thought about printing only one section at a time. I must play today and see if I can come up with a muslin or something to print and sew.
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SueC56
Posted 2011-10-16 7:10 PM (#78414 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing


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My light box is a patio door.  LOL
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dendyal
Posted 2011-12-07 10:24 AM (#79183 - in reply to #77296)
Subject: RE: printing


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There is a suggestion in this thread that time is the more valuable commodity. There's another to use a plotter. After printing and then taping my fit pattern for a dress on a standard laserjet printer I can't agree more. I searched for a relatively inexpensive plotter with a 24" width and roll capability.

I now use the HP DesignJet 111 plotter. Inexpensive for a plotter, commercial grade construction, takes a wide variety of 24" rolled papers, and the ink cartridge seems to last forever because there's so little ink on a pattern. With the 24" width I get almost all pattern pieces without any seams to tape together. So far I've only had to piece together a really wide sleeve.

I haven't figured out how to tell PM5, or maybe it's the HP print driver, that the paper is on a continuous roll so I simply define a custom paper size to fit the length of each piece. doesn't take but a few patterns and you have all the lengths you normally use and the print preview feature helps you assure you've selected appropriately.

With this setup I still need to adjust the positions of the pieces in the default layout but I've found it to be really easy to do. I can print a dress pattern on three pieces of paper, counting all the smaller bits.

Allison
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2011-12-07 11:50 AM (#79184 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: RE: printing



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You need to tell the print driver.
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retrotanga
Posted 2012-09-05 6:35 PM (#83241 - in reply to #78395)
Subject: RE: printing


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Jill, how do you get your printer to print 44inches. I have an Epson Workforce 610 which is supposed to be able to print banner size paper but when I program it in to PB it will only recognize 81/2 x 11 inch paper. Thanks, Ellen Hughes.
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kalbanese
Posted 2012-09-05 9:49 PM (#83243 - in reply to #83241)
Subject: RE: printing



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Ellen, I have Workforce 600. When your printer driver opens, go to Properties. There you select the paper type and size. In the
Size drop down box, select "User Defined", the bottom choice. The default is 849 X1100, (8.5 x 11 inches.) change the 1100 to 4400. I believe that is the maximum length. So you can put banner paper in, up to 44 inches. Hope this helps.
Kathleen
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Beth in Wichita
Posted 2012-09-06 1:23 PM (#83249 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: Re: printing



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If you paid $5/ream, printing 54 sheets would cost 54 cents plus ink. Printing patterns doesn't use much ink because there's a lot of blank space. I print my layouts full size from YC. They print in columns. A layout for 44 prints on columns of 2. (I create the layout for 22" flat & don't print the rectangle or yardage info. Wider folded layouts will print on columns of 3. A 2 yard layout prints on 9 columns. That's 18 or 27 sheets. Compared to a commercial pattern, even on a $1.99 sale, that's a bargain. I print from YC because I hate to copy the little picture onto fabric. I get it off grain. It doesn't fit right because I had to alter. So I have to shift, etc. With YC, I fine tune the layout to the exact fabric width, pin the whole rectangle to fabric & start cutting. When I realized I could do this, I decided what I saved in aggravation and stress would pay for sharpening my scissors more frequently. That was in 2000 and I haven't sharpened them yet.

I don't know what it costs to have them printed commercially, but I'm pretty sure it's more than printing at home. Assembling the pattern takes less time than going to the store & picking it up.
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JillRN1995
Posted 2012-09-07 9:00 PM (#83260 - in reply to #77283)
Subject: Re: printing



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Ellen,

I just read your post today. Have you been able to get your printer to print the longer lengths yet? As I recall, I made the settings in properties user defined too. I labeled them PMB 22, PMB 33, PMB 44. I'm not at my home computer right now, so please let me know if you're still having trouble, and I'll double check the settings when I get home.

Jill
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