Ice Dancing Dresses
thistles
Posted 2014-02-16 12:14 PM (#87318)
Subject: Ice Dancing Dresses



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My husband and I were watching the Olympics this morning and he posed an interesting question.  How do the ice dancers get into their costumes?  I was guessing that the bodices are made of stretchy material and perhaps there are side zippers?  I don't really know and I'm curious about this.  Does anyone know the answer?  As I recall, we have an ice skater on this list.

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cfonfold
Posted 2014-02-16 9:24 PM (#87324 - in reply to #87318)
Subject: Re: Ice Dancing Dresses



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Thistles I honestly don't know. But just basing it on ballet partnering clothes--- I should think that they might use the least amount of hardware necessary. Ice skating clothes are most often stretch and ballet are most often woven but the same criteria would stand. Zips might hurt and bruise. Same for hooks. When a ballet bodice is handled harshly it is often stitched together on the body. That usually means two dressers. One to hold the pieces (ex. the two backs) together and the other to stitch with a fairly invisible stitch. Honestly -- it goes quite quickly and is all but invisible to the audience. I've done at least dozens.
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2014-02-17 7:55 AM (#87331 - in reply to #87318)
Subject: Re: Ice Dancing Dresses



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Stage costumes often use hooks and eyes.
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cfonfold
Posted 2014-02-17 12:30 PM (#87340 - in reply to #87331)
Subject: Re: Ice Dancing Dresses



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Often in a heavily partnered pas de deux the very pressure of the partners hands during lifts will open the hooks unexpectedly. Yet I agree h&es are the fastening of choice in most companies. Hooks on tutu bodices are some times stitched on alternating right and left. It helps . One dancer I worked with who was wearing a zipped bodice required her dresser to stitch the zipper laps together. --with the pull inside! They are rare birds indeed.
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thistles
Posted 2014-02-17 2:15 PM (#87346 - in reply to #87324)
Subject: Re: Ice Dancing Dresses



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I hadn't thought about the pain to the performer of zippers and other hardware.  Ouch!  Some of the outfits are open in the back, which would make them easier to get into, but some have flesh colored mesh all the way up to the neck in front and back.  I wondered about the possibility of sewing them into the costumes, but then I noticed that they often wear the same costume over and over.  This is quite mysterious!
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Karen - Tech Support
Posted 2014-02-17 6:46 PM (#87347 - in reply to #87346)
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I added hooks and eyes to Susan's wedding dress under the zipper.
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Shrymp
Posted 2014-02-17 11:02 PM (#87348 - in reply to #87318)
Subject: Re: Ice Dancing Dresses


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I have made quite a few skaters costumes and do not use zippers. The materials used are lycra and they are mostly cut out or slit in the back with hooks at the neck. The hardest part is attaching the skirt which sometimes don't stretch. Adjusting the pattern from stretch to non stretch in the hip area is the trickiest part of it.
PS For your information they keep their panties in place with glue so it doesn't ride up on their butt!
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Karen Maslowski
Posted 2014-02-18 11:01 AM (#87351 - in reply to #87348)
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Glued into their underwear. Who knew?
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Mad Skater
Posted 2018-08-16 6:09 PM (#92693 - in reply to #87318)
Subject: RE: Ice Dancing Dresses



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I have done my own ice skating dresses and always used zippers. You don't feel them unless they don't lay flat like they're supposed to. I did do one that had an open back, but it had a turtle-neck, so I did snaps for the collar. Those dresses that have mesh bodices if you look closely there appears to be hook and eye closure on one of the shoulders. Usually, it's the shoulder that is sleeveless even if there is a sleeve on the other side. BTW, if you're doing something that has a mesh-covered cutout you want to build the piece with the mesh covering the fashion fabric, sew the seams along the cutout, and then cut out the fashion fabric leaving just the mesh. The lady at our rink who used to do many of the costumes gave me that tip. She said it's jut too difficult to get the shape you want trying to piece it together.

As an aside, I used to wear a leotard that had a snap crotch. Never had a bit of trouble with it, but my coach said he wouldn't trust snaps after some incident he had at a competition once where he had to be sewn in.

I've been skating for over 20 years. There's no glueing going on that I know of. I try to match underwear to the fabric as closely as possible, but really they just suggest no panties. I just don't like no panties.



Edited by Mad Skater 2018-08-16 6:17 PM
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TessainGabriola
Posted 2018-09-22 11:13 PM (#92734 - in reply to #92693)
Subject: Re: Ice Dancing Dresses



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A dancer friend has a "no panties" rule. No panty lines. I think I will not be a dancer. (fat chance at 67!)
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